ASK THE EXPERTS: Medical
Devices
For years anesthesiologist have refused technology to help with documentation, etc. With the growing public awareness of medical errors and pressure from groups like HIPPA, HCFA, and Leapfrog, do you think they will now start to rely more on technology? bpanosian@docusys.net
Dr. David Lubarsky responds:
It is clear that the future of medical record keeping is electronic, and probably wireless. With the exploding amount of information, computer assisted decision-making, algorithm storage and guidance via computer, as well as preventing bad reactions and promoting optimal care by cross-checking medical records with proposed drugs to be administered, are all going to come about in the near future.
Is it possible for anesthesia equipment to become contaminated by infectious agents, specifically viral agents, after employing it to practice anesthesia in an infected patient? Do you know of any clinical trials where this possibility has been studied? Dr. Maria Laura Alonso
Dr.
Kathryn McGoldrick responds:
We do know that a few of the more hardy infectious agents can be transmitted via contaminated anesthesia or surgical equipment. Obviously, however, this is not the type of problem that would lend itself to controlled "trials."
What are the minimal lab and x-ray requirements for ambulatory patients
receiving GA and MACs for endoscopy? seasons4@midwest.net
Dr.
Kathryn McGoldrick responds:
If the patient
is perfectly healthy, only a history and physical examination are
required. No laboratory tests or X-rays are indicated for that particular
circumstance. IF the patient has medical problems, then tests should
be ordered based on the patient's history and physical findings. The
point is to not order tests ROUTINELY but rather to base the tests
on the individual patient's medical history.
Is there an approved (FDA or otherwise) electronic anesthesia record
system? Are any of these systems (e.g., PICIS, CompuRecord) recommended
by anindependent anesthesia organization?rjohn12866@aol.com
Dr.
David Lubarsky responds:
All intraoperative
record keepers require FDA approval as a device "hooked up to a patient."
(510K, I believe). None are recommended by an independent organization.
The best advice is to speak with experts,visit/talk to a site where
the version you are buying is actually in service, and make sure that
it is of a comparable size to your planned deployment. At Duke University,
we have Saturn (made by Drager) and are quite pleased with it, and are
rolling out a PACU module to connect with our intraoperative piece.
PICIS has a similarly large premier site at Mayo and has software for
the ICU, and Compurecord has many installations (but not all of them
necessarily the latest windows based version). All three seem to be
popular products among users. The University of Michigan is developing
a highly touted home-grown automated record with GE.
Can you direct me to any literature that talks about estimating blood
loss when "eyeballing" surgical sponges. lanettegm@hotmail.com
Dr.
David Lubarsky responds:
I do not know of any
literature, however, I suggest using saline with red food dye. I measured
this during my residency being the curious type. 2x4pink 1cc, red
5cc, soaked about 10cc large lap padpink 10cc, red 25 cc, soaked
50cc
Do you know of any new nerve stimulation or nerve imaging devices
to aid in performing peripheral nerve blocks? 104472.1513@compuserve.com
Dr. Francine DErcole responds:
Presently, a B. Braun nerve stimulator with stimuplex needles is used at
our large academic institution. There is literature documenting the attempt
to employ ultrasound. However, the practicality is quite limited until technology
improves. There maybe a needle for peripheral nerve blockade with ultrasound
capability in the pipeline, however, this is not yet state-of-the art.Additionally,
the literature does not adequately support this methodology as superior
or cost effective.
Reference:
- Pusch F, et al.
Sonographic measurement of needle insertion depth in paravertebral blocks
in women. British Journal of Anaesthesia. 2000; 85(6):841-3.
Is it not unusual for patient to awake during surgeries,
due to the anesthesia now being used?
Gary Ramae
Dr.
Katherine Grichnik responds:
It is exceedingly
unlikely and very, very infrequent for a patient to awaken during surgery
done under general anesthesia with our currently used anesthetic techniques
and monitors. An especially useful monitor is the BIS, a two channel EEG
put on the patient's forehead. It converts the EEG signal to an analog
scale which has been correlated with patient awareness (scale 1-100, higher
numbers more likely to be awake/aware, lower numbers less likely to be
awake/aware). Monitoring the BIS during surgery aids the anesthesiologist
in determining the depth of anesthesia. Inhaled anesthestic agent analyzers
can also help to guide depth of anesthesia. An experienced anesthesiologist
should also be able to monitor a patient's vital signs and movements to
also guide depth of anesthesia and prevent awareness during general anesthesia.
For surgeries done
under local or regional techniques, the goal is to have an awake patient,
who may be sedated to varying degrees for anxiolysis and comfort in the
OR as necessary. You may be referring to a surgery done under local or
regional anesthesia.
I need information, web sites and links, and literature about a new device,
similar to the combitube, but of silicon and usable for every age.
Jorge Ivan Izaguirre
Dr.
Peter D. Dwane responds:
The only information
that I found was from an article in Anesthesia & Analgesia in May 2000
[1]. The maker of the laryngeal tube is VBM Medizintechnik GmbH, Sulz,
Germany. The email of the author of the article is:
v.doerges@t-online.de.
Contacting the maker
of the laryngeal tube or the author may help you to obtain this product.
Reference:
-
Dorges
V, Ocker H, Wensel V, and Schmucker P. The laryngeal Tube: A New Simple
Airway Device. Anesth Analg 2000;90:1220-2.
Is it not unusual for patient to awake during surgeries,
due to the anesthesia now being used?
Gary Ramae
Dr.
Katherine Grichnik responds:
It is exceedingly
unlikely and very, very infrequent for a patient to awaken during surgery
done under general anesthesia with our currently used anesthetic techniques
and monitors. An especially useful monitor is the BIS, a two channel EEG
put on the patient's forehead. It converts the EEG signal to an analog
scale which has been correlated with patient awareness (scale 1-100, higher
numbers more likely to be awake/aware, lower numbers less likely to be
awake/aware). Monitoring the BIS during surgery aids the anesthesiologist
in determining the depth of anesthesia. Inhaled anesthestic agent analyzers
can also help to guide depth of anesthesia. An experienced anesthesiologist
should also be able to monitor a patient's vital signs and movements to
also guide depth of anesthesia and prevent awareness during general anesthesia.
For surgeries done
under local or regional techniques, the goal is to have an awake patient,
who may be sedated to varying degrees for anxiolysis and comfort in the
OR as necessary. You may be referring to a surgery done under local or
regional anesthesia.
I need information, web sites and links, and literature about a new device,
similar to the combitube, but of silicon and usable for every age.
Jorge Ivan Izaguirre
Dr.
Peter D. Dwane responds:
The only information
that I found was from an article in Anesthesia & Analgesia in May 2000
[1]. The maker of the laryngeal tube is VBM Medizintechnik GmbH, Sulz,
Germany. The email of the author of the article is:
v.doerges@t-online.de.
Contacting the maker
of the laryngeal tube or the author may help you to obtain this product.
Reference:
-
Dorges
V, Ocker H, Wensel V, and Schmucker P. The laryngeal Tube: A New Simple
Airway Device. Anesth Analg 2000;90:1220-2.
Where can I find
an earpiece made that I can attach to the head of my stethoscope (chest
piece). I just returned from the AANA convention in Chicago but did not
see anyone there who made them. Lori Gillmor
Dr.
Katherine Grichnik responds:
I checked the websites
of many manufacturers of medical supplies, but did not find any equipment
pieces that met your description. You may try to contact Littman or another
stethoscope manufacturer directly about your request.
I am a fourth year
resident in anesthesiology. Recently I have been developing a data recording
system for any aspect of our anesthetic practice. These recordings include
information about preoperative, intraoperative and postoperative data.
Initially the computer
program was written in shtml using database connection with ASP and dynamic
management and presentation of information with JavaScript and VBscript.
All of this works in an intranet server at our hospital, with the recent
development of XML language. I am trying to migrate this application into
XML and IÕve been reading some papers about data type documents (DTD) in
the context of eCommerce applications like the future web standards. my
question is: Could you tell me if there is any standardized kind of DTD
in medical recording data? mmunoz@cht.insalud.es
Dr.
Katherine Grichnik responds:
I passed this question
to our information systems specialist. He is very knowledgeable about
the commercial data recording systems having just reviewed most of them
in the process of picking a new system for our institution. To his knowledge
there are not any standardized data type documents in medical recording
data. You might contact some of the large companies who make intraoperative
data acquisition systems (such as Drager) with your ideas as they may
be very interested in your work.
I
need information, web sites and links, and literature about a new device,
similar to the combitube, but of silicon and usable for every age.
Jorge Ivan Izaguirre
Dr.
Peter D. Dwane responds:
The only information
that I found was from an article in Anesthesia & Analgesia in May 2000
[1]. The maker of the laryngeal tube is VBM Medizintechnik GmbH, Sulz,
Germany. The email of the author of the article is:
v.doerges@t-online.de.
Contacting the maker
of the laryngeal tube or the author may help you to obtain this product.
Reference:
-
Dorges
V, Ocker H, Wensel V, and Schmucker P. The laryngeal Tube: A New Simple
Airway Device. Anesth Analg 2000;90:1220-2.
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